PULSE AUTOCYCLE NETWORK

therouj · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 20

Does anyone have pictures of their radiator mounting on the side of their vehicle. I am particulary interested in the hardware, how it is attached to the vehicle side (I assume a hole thru the body to the frame, and how the hoses were run. I also would like to see a picture of any covers that make the whole arraingement look better>
I am going to use a Kawasaki industrial engine to power Pulse 276.
It will be done this coming Spring. (Now I have to do it, no more excuses)

Bob Hichborn · Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl

I'd send you pictures of the way it was done on #77, but only as a reference of "how not to do it". The steel components looked they were cut with torch, un-finished. The brakets were attached with metal clamps. IE a REAL mess. I'm going to be fabricating some brakets, when I get to that point.

As far as scoops go, many have built their own. I'm going to fashion something from a dragster hood scoop, similar to those found on this site.

http://www.aeroglass.com/scoops/index.php

Bob Hichborn · Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl

Pete,

I'm going to revive the radiator mounting Forum subject after looking at those gas tank pictures you posted. Can you get and post a few more images of the scoop and internal mounts of the radiator? I assume that it's a full size Goldwing Radiator? I had a rather long conversation about replacing the GL1100 radiator with 2 smaller radiators so they could be positioned a bit more discreetly, with a bike racer friend and he convinced me that the water flow and temperature all works harmoniously with the engine performance and if you mess with those 2 parameters your bike will never run it's best. Any comments from the group?

- Bob
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hatfield · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 60 Location: Muscatine, IA

Bob,

I'm gonna be working on it this wekend, I'll get some photos.
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Stevenp74 · Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Panhandle

I would like to know what industrial engine kawasaki makes that I can
use in my Pulse as well? My Yam 400 needs to be replaced as well and
I have procrastinated long enough as well! I am leaning towards the
Kawasaki 636 engine. Any thoughts!

Steven #74
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steveg · Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 50 Location: otisco NY

has anyone considered placing radiators in the outriggers? with a scoop directing air from underneath through the radiator (mounted in the framework of the outrigger) then up through a louver out would not only be functional, but look cool. two radiators one on each side would be sufficient ,
AND if this was done right heat could be diverted through the outrigger into the body providing heat also.. there is more than enough room. extra 'glassing would have to be incorperated in theoutrigger for ducting, and maybe mounting of the radiator...

steveg.
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elden simons · Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 369 Location: Brampton, Michigan

Hey Steve G., If an autocycle was doing the slow-drive (parade participant) in Nevada in the summer, would fans be needed to create air flow for radiators under the stabilizers?

therouj · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 20

Has any one considered exhaust augmented cooling?

Bob Hichborn · Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl

I don't mind admitting, I've never heard of it. What applications have you seen it used on and how do you think it would apply to the Pulse. I'm sure there are plenty of owners still looking for more effective ways of cooling their vehicles. Thanks for the new ideas.....

-Bob
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therouj · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 20

An aviation mechanic I know suggested it and I was not aware of it either. Essentially you use the flow of the exhaust to draw air through the radiator. It involves metal work that allows the air to flow to a pipe surrounding the exhaust pipe. The auxillary pipe extends beyond the exhaust creating the vacumn. I'm having a hard time fathoming the concept. My freind says properly designed and fabricated it would cool the Pulse even at very slow speeds.

hatfield · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 60 Location: Muscatine, IA

I think I'm going to add one of these dual pass coolers shown at the bottom of this link:

http://www.snsclassics.com/fans.html
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elden simons · Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 369 Location: Brampton, Michigan

Therouj... Using the exhaust to draw air flow through the radiator is much like using tap water to siphon a flooded basement.
Now that you have explained it. It does seem plausible.
With what "hatfield" just posted with a link for new cooling products, almost anything is possible.
Now, all we need is 'Doc Brown' to help us figure it out.

Bob Hichborn · Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl

Pete,

Nice link!

Hey, did you ever get pictures of your radiator mount points?

- Bob
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chengsls · Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 51 Location: Murrieta, CA

The exhaust augmented cooling is not just used in avaition. The US Navy uses a similar concept to cool its engine exhausts. The idea is to reduce the heat signiture of the vessel.
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Stevenp74 · Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Panhandle

I just read the posts on this subject again, so here it goes.
I have to redo my outriggers so Steveg I would like to incorporate
both the radiator and oil cooler into the new ones. I could make it
look like the intake of a jet fighter. Bob , I read about what your
friend said about using a different radiator than standard. I will be
installing an inline four (quiet& powerful) and would like to use
two low profile raiators of some sort. That will fit in the outrigger area.
Pete, or has any one used one of the dual pass coolers? For oil , or can they be used for a radiator? They look cool ,could be mounted on the outside
and made to look like something cool.
To sum it up, can I use dual radiators and if so what kind and would I need to
use a water pump. I would appreciate any suggestions and input on the
whole outrigger , radiator, oil cooler combo.
Thanks
Steve Shafer
#74
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Bob Hichborn · Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl

Steve,

I've checked into switching between single and dual radiators with a few others and have been told that it's not that as critical as I was told by someone I talked to earlier. I guess everyone has their own opinion on the matter. The guy that said it was a bad idea was into racing where several degrees in engine temp effect performance. Not quite the case with the Pulse. I'm not sure how you're planning on mounting the radiators in a set of stock outriggers. I'd be interested in you're placement ideas. The biggest hastle with placeing them there is initially getting all that sprayed in foam out. I'm probably going with dual radiator also, but will be mounting them on either side of the tail in the rear.

- Bob
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Stevenp74 · Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Panhandle

HI Bob,
If you get bored. look on Steve Schmidt's site and look up pulse 74 and
you will see my anything but standard outriggers. They framed a box
made of 1 x 2 tubing so the could mount a seat on the out riggers for
the movies. its sturdy but ugly! The sides are 8.5 in. deep and at the back
they are 24in wide. I am going to modify the outriggers to make them
look better as well as mounting the radiators in them. Still working on the final design. Still taking all suggestions!
Thanks
Steve Shafer
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Chuck Furgason · Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 37

Hi Steve
Have you thought about putting a radiator on one side and an oil cooler on the other. I don't know if it would help but with the gold wing the engine and transmission oil is the same and it seems if the oil was cooler the engine would be to.
Chuck

Steve Schmidt · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 355

Hey Steve Shafer,

I will be in Florida the first week of April and can stop by on Monday if you will be around. Send me an email

Steve Schmidt