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Dave Bauer
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Front shock replacement (coil overs) |
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All,
Does anyone have coil-over spring shocks in the FRONT end of their machine? If so, are they original or aftermarket? Who is the manufacturer and what is the part number? Most importantly: How well do they work?
My front air shocks finally gave out because the speedo cable rubbed on the right shock boot (Danger, Will Robinson, Danger) and I want to fix the problem once and for all with coil-overs. I used coil-overs on the rear but they ride a little too rough since they were designed for a heavier street rod.
-Dave Bauer
Pulse 167 _________________ -Dave Bauer
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Bob Cervero
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 63
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dave, when I replaced the front coil over shocks on #61, I used Monroe 575 Load levelers. They worked fine. In my opinion the best set up is coil over shock in front and air shocks in the rear. That way the front ride heighth never changes so you don't get changes in steering characteristics, but you still have the ability to correct ride heighth in the rear for load variations and road conditions.
You can however add shims under the coil over springs to raise the front ride heighth if you need to, as I did on #61. |
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Dave Bauer
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: coil over shocks |
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Bob,
I looked up the Monroe 575 on Monroe's website. I couldn't find 575 but I did find 58575. By the decription, it appears that these shocks have a loop and bushing at both ends, compress to 9.375 inches and expand to 14.5 inches and have a 60# spring on them. Does these sound like the right ones?
If so, how well do the 60# springs work for you?
-Dave _________________ -Dave Bauer
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pulse220
Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 50
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: coil over shocks |
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Bob,
For what it's worth, while I was rebuilding my front end, I replaced the original air shocks with another set of new air shocks. I did this because I was advised by Bob Hichborn that the mounts for the factory air shocks vs. factory coilovers was different, and by that I mean not just the mounts but also the angle. He sent a picture showing the difference.
It is my understanding that you have to modify and relocate the mounts to change from air to coilovers.
Perhaps there are coilovers out there that would fit and work without any problem. I'd love to see if there is another shock besides the airshcoks I mounted. Although, I do like the ability to adjust the ride height in seconds via pressure.
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Dave,
Here's a link to the picture that Chad referenced.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1370190315038589010BmbonP
You'll notice the positioning difference of the top shock mount between Pulse #77 that had the coil overs when I put it and Hal's Pulse in South Florida that was fitted with the air shocks. Of course, as all us Pulse owners have learned... "your configuration may vary".
Monroe no longer makes/markets the original coilover shocks that were used on the Pulse. Napa picked up the line (well, at least they were last year when I last bought a set) and the new name is the SensaTrac part number 58575. Somewhere along the line they switched between being black to white, so it's possible you may end up purchasing a set that could be either color depending on the stores inventory.
That's about the extent of my experience with shocks. Bob, who responded above and Don Muddiman put alot of time into experimenting with shocks, right height, tire pressure, etc... Even though they have both sold their Pulses they continue to share their wealth of knowledge and experience with the group. Thanks
- Bob _________________ "Everyday you wake up with a Pulse,
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Chuck Furgason
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 37
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Dave Pulse328 had coil over on front and rear. I tried installing load leveler shocks on the front and could not get it to lift the front. What I ended up doing was leaving one air on and one coil over. I don't know how much this effects the handling but I have ran like this for several years. In fact one year at Marion at slow speed I had a very bad shake it turned out to be the coil spring on the shock had broke.
Pulse 324 has air front and back. |
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Dave Bauer
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: coil-overs |
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Thanks all for providing your input.
I replaced all 4 original air shocks on my Pulse in '92 with Monroe air shocks. The fit well, but I never liked the stiff ride they gave me. So, shortly after, I fit coil-overs in the rear. I liked then, but still thought the ride was a little stiff. Now that the front shocks have finally failed again, I'm going to try the Monroe 58575s on the front. I'm not opposed to modifying my shock mounts to fit the coil-overs.
I'll let you know how it all turns out.
-Dave Bauer _________________ -Dave Bauer
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