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Steve Schmidt Site Admin
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 355
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: Pulse #234 FOR SALE |
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#234 FOR SALE
The odometer shows 424 miles. The lower aft panel is missing as is the engine access panel on the underside. The vin no. on the steel support behind the rear seat is 17JTW12R1GM000193 and is hand painted.
There is also a vin plate on the dash as evidenced on one of the photos that is different from the one behind the seat. It is 17JTW12R0GM000234.
The engine is a Yamaha twin. At present It is not running but seems to be mostly complete.
There is no title and I make no representation as to the authenticity of the vehicle in anyway. If interested, make a reasonable offer. Call me with any questions. Thanks, Herb
Herb Schurr
2525 Bridgetown Pike
Langhorne, PA 19053
215-757-2524
Email for lots of pix:
herb144@hotmail.com
http://www.autocycles.org/234.html
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hcubed
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 47 Location: Biloxi, MS
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:02 am Post subject: 193 or 234? |
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Interesting, because 193 also is listed as red
Pulse #193..........Year 1986....Red....Goldstein ? /Unknown
Body #8617192?????
Engine #16M-002427
VIN 17JTW12R1GM000193
Which would you consider accurate, the painted frame number or the VIN tag?
Does anyone know if 193 has ever been located?
Or if a frame labeled 234 has been found?
What engine number does this one have? |
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Steve Schmidt Site Admin
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 355
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
The VIN number on the title and dash plaque should be the same. Any other number painted on the frame is questionable.
I think if Owosso Motor Car Co. had a frame ready for a body, they just mated the two together whether the numbers matched or not. And after Pulse #218, OMCC did not assign body numbers, as they used a different fiberglass body supplier.
OMCC should have painted over the 'hand painted' VIN number on the frame, if they were going to use a different VIN number on title and dash plaque, but they did not.
So there is some confusion in the Pulse 'numbers' game.
OMCC did not issue Pulse titles. They gave a "Certificate of Origin" with each car produced to the Pulse dealer. When the dealer sold the Pulse, he supplied or assisted the buyer in obtaining a title from that State.
I have seen cases where someone will buy a used Pulse and the seller gives them the original "Certificate of Origin" from OMCC. No one has ever titled that Pulse in 20 plus years. So it was never on the road either.
We try to sort it out the best we can, but when you add in the 'lost title' or 're-titled' Pulses, it really gets fun figuring out the truth.
I am always amazed at how many folks loose their titles. |
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hcubed
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 47 Location: Biloxi, MS
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: vin question |
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So there's no real way to see if the number of 193 was ever put on a title or vin tag, or what vin tag would have been placed on frame #234, right?
Of those that have been found, is this the only "mismatch" that we've seen?
Kinda hard to believe that it's a factory "frame ready for a body" problem, considering they're 41 frames apart. Maybe a damaged dash replaced with another available dash (and not thinking about the plate)? |
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dman
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 110 Location: PORTAGE MI
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: |
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I believe this is 193 because the motor number on this Pulse matches the same number listed on the web site , 193 under motor number.
The bad thing about this Pulse is there is NO TITLE!! SO how do you trace it when you have a vin discrepancy...and which state do you start? This guy has only had it 2 months and bought it with no title. He bought it and would like $10000 for it ... maybe if it was complete and had a title and was at least running....
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Tim VanHook
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Pooler,Ga.
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: 193 OR 234? |
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I just work out a deal with Herb and I have bought the Pulse. I will be getting It Tuesday. I will post more detail as soon as I get a chance to get into it and do a good inspection. I will probably convert to a goldwing setup. Looking for someone near Savannah, Ga. with one for help.
Thanks
Tim |
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Tim VanHook
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Pooler,Ga.
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Got th Pulse home around 8:00pm. I Checked the engine number and it matches the V.I.N. for #193. I was looking in the owners manual and it said it was one of 234 made. This number was hand written in the book. I believe the dash V.I.N. plate is not the original because it does not have the Owosso logo at the start of the vin. I think the owner did not know where the vin was so he made a tag thinking the number in the book of the vehicle count was the V.I.N.. I will try to get it running this weekend. I will keep everyone informed. THIS IS WAY COOL!!!!!!
Tim |
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Tim VanHook
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Pooler,Ga.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:00 am Post subject: |
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This is #193. Started looking at the dash V.I.N. and noticed a small hole by the tag. I pulled the tag up and it was one of those trophy labels someone made and double side tape it over the second hole of the original V.I.N plate. So now I know what I have. Looks like the frame is in good shape. It has a glass windshield and plex canopy. hope to try to get it running soon.
Tim |
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Tim,
Congrats on the new Pulse! Let us know if we can help you out during the process of bringing it back to life.
There's been some interest in a Florida Pulse gathering, maybe during the Sun n Fun Fly-in this April. You're not that far away.
- Bob _________________ "Everyday you wake up with a Pulse,
is a good day!" |
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