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therouj
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: Radiator mounting |
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Does anyone have pictures of their radiator mounting on the side of their vehicle. I am particulary interested in the hardware, how it is attached to the vehicle side (I assume a hole thru the body to the frame, and how the hoses were run. I also would like to see a picture of any covers that make the whole arraingement look better>
I am going to use a Kawasaki industrial engine to power Pulse 276.
It will be done this coming Spring. (Now I have to do it, no more excuses) |
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I'd send you pictures of the way it was done on #77, but only as a reference of "how not to do it". The steel components looked they were cut with torch, un-finished. The brakets were attached with metal clamps. IE a REAL mess. I'm going to be fabricating some brakets, when I get to that point.
As far as scoops go, many have built their own. I'm going to fashion something from a dragster hood scoop, similar to those found on this site.
http://www.aeroglass.com/scoops/index.php |
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Pete,
I'm going to revive the radiator mounting Forum subject after looking at those gas tank pictures you posted. Can you get and post a few more images of the scoop and internal mounts of the radiator? I assume that it's a full size Goldwing Radiator? I had a rather long conversation about replacing the GL1100 radiator with 2 smaller radiators so they could be positioned a bit more discreetly, with a bike racer friend and he convinced me that the water flow and temperature all works harmoniously with the engine performance and if you mess with those 2 parameters your bike will never run it's best. Any comments from the group?
- Bob _________________ "Everyday you wake up with a Pulse,
is a good day!" |
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hatfield
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 60 Location: Muscatine, IA
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bob,
I'm gonna be working on it this wekend, I'll get some photos. _________________ Pete Hatfield
Muscatine, IA
www.petehatfield.com |
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Stevenp74
Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Panhandle
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to know what industrial engine kawasaki makes that I can
use in my Pulse as well? My Yam 400 needs to be replaced as well and
I have procrastinated long enough as well! I am leaning towards the
Kawasaki 636 engine. Any thoughts!
Steven #74 _________________ Florida Panhandle |
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steveg
Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 50 Location: otisco NY
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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has anyone considered placing radiators in the outriggers? with a scoop directing air from underneath through the radiator (mounted in the framework of the outrigger) then up through a louver out would not only be functional, but look cool. two radiators one on each side would be sufficient ,
AND if this was done right heat could be diverted through the outrigger into the body providing heat also.. there is more than enough room. extra 'glassing would have to be incorperated in theoutrigger for ducting, and maybe mounting of the radiator...
steveg. _________________ steve george litestar #009
otisco NY |
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elden simons
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 369 Location: Brampton, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:51 am Post subject: Outrigger Radiators |
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Hey Steve G., If an autocycle was doing the slow-drive (parade participant) in Nevada in the summer, would fans be needed to create air flow for radiators under the stabilizers? |
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therouj
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Has any one considered exhaust augmented cooling? |
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't mind admitting, I've never heard of it. What applications have you seen it used on and how do you think it would apply to the Pulse. I'm sure there are plenty of owners still looking for more effective ways of cooling their vehicles. Thanks for the new ideas.....
-Bob _________________ "Everyday you wake up with a Pulse,
is a good day!" |
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therouj
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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An aviation mechanic I know suggested it and I was not aware of it either. Essentially you use the flow of the exhaust to draw air through the radiator. It involves metal work that allows the air to flow to a pipe surrounding the exhaust pipe. The auxillary pipe extends beyond the exhaust creating the vacumn. I'm having a hard time fathoming the concept. My freind says properly designed and fabricated it would cool the Pulse even at very slow speeds. |
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hatfield
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 60 Location: Muscatine, IA
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elden simons
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 369 Location: Brampton, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: exhaust drawn air cooling |
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Therouj... Using the exhaust to draw air flow through the radiator is much like using tap water to siphon a flooded basement.
Now that you have explained it. It does seem plausible.
With what "hatfield" just posted with a link for new cooling products, almost anything is possible.
Now, all we need is 'Doc Brown' to help us figure it out. |
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Pete,
Nice link!
Hey, did you ever get pictures of your radiator mount points?
- Bob _________________ "Everyday you wake up with a Pulse,
is a good day!" |
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chengsls
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 51 Location: Murrieta, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: |
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The exhaust augmented cooling is not just used in avaition. The US Navy uses a similar concept to cool its engine exhausts. The idea is to reduce the heat signiture of the vessel. _________________ Scott Saunders |
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Stevenp74
Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Panhandle
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: radiators |
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I just read the posts on this subject again, so here it goes.
I have to redo my outriggers so Steveg I would like to incorporate
both the radiator and oil cooler into the new ones. I could make it
look like the intake of a jet fighter. Bob , I read about what your
friend said about using a different radiator than standard. I will be
installing an inline four (quiet& powerful) and would like to use
two low profile raiators of some sort. That will fit in the outrigger area.
Pete, or has any one used one of the dual pass coolers? For oil , or can they be used for a radiator? They look cool ,could be mounted on the outside
and made to look like something cool.
To sum it up, can I use dual radiators and if so what kind and would I need to
use a water pump. I would appreciate any suggestions and input on the
whole outrigger , radiator, oil cooler combo.
Thanks
Steve Shafer
#74 _________________ Florida Panhandle |
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Bob Hichborn
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Steve,
I've checked into switching between single and dual radiators with a few others and have been told that it's not that as critical as I was told by someone I talked to earlier. I guess everyone has their own opinion on the matter. The guy that said it was a bad idea was into racing where several degrees in engine temp effect performance. Not quite the case with the Pulse. I'm not sure how you're planning on mounting the radiators in a set of stock outriggers. I'd be interested in you're placement ideas. The biggest hastle with placeing them there is initially getting all that sprayed in foam out. I'm probably going with dual radiator also, but will be mounting them on either side of the tail in the rear.
- Bob _________________ "Everyday you wake up with a Pulse,
is a good day!" |
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Stevenp74
Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Florida Panhandle
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: |
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HI Bob,
If you get bored. look on Steve Schmidt's site and look up pulse 74 and
you will see my anything but standard outriggers. They framed a box
made of 1 x 2 tubing so the could mount a seat on the out riggers for
the movies. its sturdy but ugly! The sides are 8.5 in. deep and at the back
they are 24in wide. I am going to modify the outriggers to make them
look better as well as mounting the radiators in them. Still working on the final design. Still taking all suggestions!
Thanks
Steve Shafer _________________ Florida Panhandle |
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Chuck Furgason
Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 37
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Hi Steve
Have you thought about putting a radiator on one side and an oil cooler on the other. I don't know if it would help but with the gold wing the engine and transmission oil is the same and it seems if the oil was cooler the engine would be to.
Chuck |
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Steve Schmidt Site Admin
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 355
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Steve Shafer,
I will be in Florida the first week of April and can stop by on Monday if you will be around. Send me an email
Steve Schmidt |
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