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Need Roll Bar & Windshield Scratch Proofing Info?

 
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BelaP



Joined: 07 Sep 2010
Posts: 23
Location: Miami

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Need Roll Bar & Windshield Scratch Proofing Info? Reply with quote

I'm sure it came up before but I couldn't find any info here on search,
where is the second roll bar placement or how to add it on to my #21?
I talked to several users but nobody new anything about it.

So if any of you who has one for sale or who could custom make one for me Question
would be a great help before completion of my frame works.
If not documentation or sketch how to do it would be nice to have.

I also have question about the polycarbonate windshield
since I talked to Todds Canopies.
The bad news is you can't use the windshield wiper on this kind of plastic,
because they will be scratched and they need special care how they cleaned.
Unfortunately in Miami in summer we have a lot of heavy rains,
so there is a need for using a windshield wiper.
I was thinking if I could use any screen protector film on it or similar,
what is used on iPad for example to prevent scratching
Question

Happy Holidays and New Year

Bela
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hcubed



Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Biloxi, MS

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:38 am    Post subject: "second" roll bar Reply with quote

The only place any mention of the second roll bar came up was as a special purchase (original equipment), and only one member made mention of it:

Elden Simons. Owner of #308.

"...What got me, was the extra cost on my purchase for another roll bar (considered as second), which is located just before the fuel tank..."

Maybe you can PM him to get pictures of location and mounting.

From the #308 page:

1 PULSE 17JTW15G1M000308
1969 Chrysler-Taxi Chrome Yellow
DAU 81746 Code Ey7
Included:
Heater
Carpeted Canopy
Interior Map Pocket
Pulse Logo Steering Wheel
Temperature Gauge
Adjustable Air Shocks
Added Options:
[b]Carpeted Roll Bar
Rear Roll Bar[/b]
Courtesy Light
Fresh Air Vents
Safety Bar Lights (2)
Air Conditioning
Special Work (Radio-Helmet)


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elden simons



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Brampton, Michigan

PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Posting Pictures Reply with quote

Uh, sorry...Elden can't post pictures. I've got WebTV and it is the basic model.

The rear roll bar for the Pulse is quite unimpressive. It's location is aft of the shelf behind the passenger seat. Also, that very same shelf is generally above the air cleaner / filter. So, anyways, the roll bar was square and assisted in being an additional mounting point for the large upper, rear body shell.
I'll look for a short moment in the Search mode, maybe I'll find something.

Elden
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elden simons



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Sorry, didn't find any pictures Reply with quote

http://blog.autocycles.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=566&highlight=rear+roll+bar
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hcubed



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, wasn't aware of the WebTV thing.

I suppose, if pictures were that essential, you could snail mail a couple to someone who could scan and post.

It appears from the attached posts, however, that the "second" roll bar has more use as a rear body support. If someone were to replace the engine (grafting on the donor), would the rear roll bar stay, or be removed with the old square tubing engine box?
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elden simons



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: Make or Take a stab at a custom roll bar Reply with quote

There are other capable members in our group that have the very roll bar in question, but I digress where the very design is less important than the function.

Unlike the front roll bar where the arc of protection is substantial for the pilot-operator, the rear bar is barely the width of ones head.

Like the attachment address had brought you to, the rear roll bar is situated behind the cargo shelf wall.
It does greatly assist in keeping the upper, rear shell from drooping and so, someone will have to fabricate either bent round or square tubing to mimic the same effect. It is part of the original OMCC square framework (added onto) of the 1200cc engine frame.

Using a carpenter's square and some measuring, a person is going to have to figure how deep the back shelf is going to be on their rebuild or customizing.
Then it will be a hit or miss that it will fullfill it's purpose and yet fit properly under that large rear upper body piece.

Maybe create a method of open-ended square tubing that will accept the later fitting of a horse-shoe (upside down 'U') roll bar of same tubing once proper measurement of inner clearance can be made with the back piece on. I don't see any other way than to have a 'receiver' made as such.

Then to finally join the custom roll bar to the 'receiver' is to use inserted steel pins that are hammered into the receiver's openings... Then redress them to fit into the open ends of the custom roll bar. I don't know Sad

Add to that, a means to secure the upper rear shell to that roll bar like explained in the attachments made in previous post (wood blocks held in place on the shell by resin where the bolts are driven through the roll bar and into them).

Whew! Anyone else got comment?
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BelaP



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Like the attachment address had brought you to,
the rear roll bar is situated behind the cargo shelf wall.
It does greatly assist in keeping the upper, rear shell from drooping and so

Thank you for all the help so far.
Bob Hichborn also supports the above,
because he mentioned having extra support bracket at the fuel tank opening
for more attachment point for the rear body.
I also found an info at 1:49 on this video link about the second roll bar
from Ed Butcher's, but unfortunately you can't see anything: Confused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEsmqK4ijgs

Happy New Year,

Bela
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